Talk:Presignal Bypass Station - Revision history

Benny: fixed redlinks

2013-11-07T09:02:33Z

fixed redlinks

Clifs: /* Pics for Stationary? */ new section

2009-05-25T10:46:42Z

‎Pics for Stationary?: new section

MDGrein: /* Jamming Issue */ new section

2007-12-07T02:53:47Z

‎Jamming Issue: new section

Ammler at 12:30, 7 September 2007

2007-09-07T12:30:48Z

Ammler: PBS is already taken!

2007-09-07T12:29:41Z

PBS is already taken!

Strstrep: Problem?

2007-09-07T04:36:20Z

Problem?

Thraxian at 14:52, 6 September 2007

2007-09-06T14:52:08Z

Thraxian: SL Terminus

2007-09-06T13:27:10Z

SL Terminus

Sedontane: spelling correction

2007-09-06T12:30:32Z

spelling correction

Sedontane: commented

2007-09-06T12:30:11Z

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 == Pics for Stationary? ==
-*If anybody has any nice completed stations of this type they'd like to showcase in the [[Stationary]], there's an empty page just waiting for someone to fill it.
+*If anybody has any nice completed stations of this type they'd like to showcase in the [page does not exist], there's an empty page just waiting for someone to fill it.
-*On that same note, if anybody knows in what #openttdcoop game [[User:Progman|Progman]] built the station on the page, let me know, I'll add an entry in the [[Junctionary_-_Presignal_Bypass_Stations|Presignal Bypass]] page.
+*On that same note, if anybody knows in what #openttdcoop game [[User:Progman|Progman]] built the station on the page, let me know, I'll add an entry in the [page does not exist] page.
 --[[User:Clifs|Opportunity is missed by most people because it&#39;s dressed in overalls and looks like work.]] 10:46, 25 May 2009 (UTC)-[[User:Clifs|Clifs]]

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	I've put toghether a simple bugreport @ http://mdnet.se/temp/ottdcoop/ containing described screenshots and the lab-savegame if anyone wants to try it themselves...		I've put toghether a simple bugreport @ http://mdnet.se/temp/ottdcoop/ containing described screenshots and the lab-savegame if anyone wants to try it themselves...
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		+	== Pics for Stationary? ==
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		+	*If anybody has any nice completed stations of this type they'd like to showcase in the [[Stationary]], there's an empty page just waiting for someone to fill it.
		+	*On that same note, if anybody knows in what #openttdcoop game [[User:Progman\|Progman]] built the station on the page, let me know, I'll add an entry in the [[Junctionary_-_Presignal_Bypass_Stations\|Presignal Bypass]] page.
		+	--[[User:Clifs\|Opportunity is missed by most people because it's dressed in overalls and looks like work.]] 10:46, 25 May 2009 (UTC)-[[User:Clifs\|Clifs]]

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	I'd welcome any feedback about this modification of the PBS design. [[User:Thraxian\|Thraxian]] 14:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)		I'd welcome any feedback about this modification of the PBS design. [[User:Thraxian\|Thraxian]] 14:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
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		+	== Jamming Issue ==
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		+	As already pointed out by strstrep there is a slight jamming issue with this and I've tested it out...
		+	The jam does happen exactly like strstrep says...
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		+	I've put toghether a simple bugreport @ http://mdnet.se/temp/ottdcoop/ containing described screenshots and the lab-savegame if anyone wants to try it themselves...

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−	'''Do not use PBS as ~~shortcut~~, its already in use for [http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/PBS path based signaling].''' --[[User:Ammler\|Ammler]] 12:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)	+	'''Do not use PBS as abbreviation, its already in use for [http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/PBS path based signaling].''' --[[User:Ammler\|Ammler]] 12:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
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		+	'''Do not use PBS as shortcut, its already in use for [http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/PBS path based signaling].''' --[[User:Ammler\|Ammler]] 12:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
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	I believe it'll work best with trains of various speeds, also a version with 2 entrances to presignal block would be even more efficient. ewanm89		I believe it'll work best with trains of various speeds, also a version with 2 entrances to presignal block would be even more efficient. ewanm89

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	Looks good, I agree with Ewanm89 it would work better with 2 entry streams but I think that may be difficult. Great work and an informative wiki article thumbs up. Sedontane		Looks good, I agree with Ewanm89 it would work better with 2 entry streams but I think that may be difficult. Great work and an informative wiki article thumbs up. Sedontane
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		+	I think I'm seeing a possible problem. Assume all the platforms are full with the exception of one near the far end. A train enters the presignal block because there are no trains in it and one of the exits is free. It proceeds toward the free platform. Before it reaches the free platform, another train also enters the presignal block because the '''same platform''' is free, and the bypass allows the signal block to pass around the train that will take up that platform. The second train was admitted to the presignal block, even though there are no platforms for it to use. This could block other trains if nearer platforms open up before the intended one. [[User:Strstrep\|strstrep]] 04:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

	== SL Terminus ==		== SL Terminus ==

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 == SL Terminus ==
-If this type of station were put as a terminus on an SL, would it work if all the entrances were on one side, the exits on the other, and an entrance/combo signal placed to allow trains to decide whether to choose the even or odd track numbers?  One set of tracks (even/odd) would be at the higher elevation, while the other set would use the tunnel system as originally designed with the presignal bypass structure of the other.  The exit tracks would remain as they are, minus the presignal bypass, and would eventually become the SL.
+If this type of station were put as a terminus on an SL, would it work if all the entrances were on one side, the exits on the other, and an entrance/combo signal placed to allow trains to decide whether to choose the even or odd track numbers?  One set of tracks (even/odd) would be at the higher elevation, while the other set would use the tunnel system as originally designed with the presignal bypass structure of the other.  The exit tracks would remain as they are, minus the presignal bypass, and would eventually become the SL. [[User:Thraxian|Thraxian]] 13:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
-I'll post a screenshot of my idea when I get the chance to load up the game. [[User:Thraxian|Thraxian]] 13:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
+Here are some screenshots.  I have not added any signalling yet.  The first image is the base case.

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	Looks good, I agree with Ewanm89 it would work better with 2 entry streams but I think that may be difficult. Great work and an informative wiki article thumbs up. Sedontane		Looks good, I agree with Ewanm89 it would work better with 2 entry streams but I think that may be difficult. Great work and an informative wiki article thumbs up. Sedontane
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		+	== SL Terminus ==
		+	If this type of station were put as a terminus on an SL, would it work if all the entrances were on one side, the exits on the other, and an entrance/combo signal placed to allow trains to decide whether to choose the even or odd track numbers? One set of tracks (even/odd) would be at the higher elevation, while the other set would use the tunnel system as originally designed with the presignal bypass structure of the other. The exit tracks would remain as they are, minus the presignal bypass, and would eventually become the SL.
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		+	I'll post a screenshot of my idea when I get the chance to load up the game. [[User:Thraxian\|Thraxian]] 13:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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	I believe it'll work best with trains of various speeds, also a version with 2 entrances to presignal block would be even more efficient. ewanm89		I believe it'll work best with trains of various speeds, also a version with 2 entrances to presignal block would be even more efficient. ewanm89

−	Looks good, I agree with Ewanm89 it would work better with 2 entry streams but I think that ~~mayt~~ be difficult. Great work and an informative wiki article thumbs up. Sedontane	+	Looks good, I agree with Ewanm89 it would work better with 2 entry streams but I think that may be difficult. Great work and an informative wiki article thumbs up. Sedontane